Monday, 8 February 2010

Gigi Jordan Tragedy and Other MK


A few news stories to cover in this post (cheers for the tip in comments). First off the tragic case of Gigi Jordan who killed her eight year old son (Jude Jordan Mirra) in New York's Peninsula Hotel in a botched murder-suicide attempt, before being discovered 'babbling incoherently' in a drugged, barely conscious state. Of course you have to expect many people to dismiss what she has said in her suicide note and in the past as the ravings of a delusional, suicidal woman who couldn't cope with her marriage breaking down and her son's autism. In the note she claims that her son was a rape victim who was in constant pain:

In a bizarre message intended as a suicide note, the wealthy one-time pharmaceutical company executive detailed a life of sadness interrupted by a single ray of hope: her only child, Jude.

"I hope Jude is in a better place," the 49-year-old Belgian wrote in the strange two-page note left in her 16th-floor suite at the posh Peninsula hotel.

At one point, Jordan suggested her son was a rape victim and "in constant pain." She mentioned speaking with a Wyoming child porn investigator about the sexual abuse of kids.

Ex-FBI agent Flint Waters "told me many rich people are involved," Jordan wrote. "Many wealthy guys trade child porn like a hobby."

130 comments:

Anonymous said...

Re-posting comment from end of "Luciferian Christina" thread here:

Two random observations if anyone is interested...

Ever notice how when celebs such as Mischa Barton and Lindsay Lohan tend to deny their problems with the words, "I'm in a really good place now"? I'm pretty sure Lohan has used it as least twice, and I'm guessing Barton was where I saw it the last time.

Also, I wonder if those creepy bejeweled lollipops that you often see Kim Kardashian with are related to that "Millions of Milkshakes" - type crap?
http://www.couturesnob.com/images2009/katy-perry.jpg
and especially this pic
http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles/74624/projects/227199/746241242406806.jpg

8 February 2010 12:50

Chudah said...

I just find it appalling that anyone would pay $25 for a lollipop when you have 1/2 of all US children depend on food stamps. And we idolize these people?

Anonymous said...

@Chudah, oh well..you know how money makes people ; stupid.

as for the Catholic Priest, thats so common..there are written books dating back from the early 19th century that state it was almost pandemic for priests to 'have their way' and how nuns over-look it.

Im guessing thats a nun who didnt agree, so he took the easy option; kill her.

one such book comes to mind

"escaped nun - disclosures of a convent life" dating from 1830s(widely available online for free)

thats a must read for anyone who is a Catholic/or doubts that it goes on/has gone on for years.

Anonymous said...

the third story is worst i think!

Lori said...

i still have to read that most dangerous game link...makes me wonder about the "accidental" dick cheney shooting a few years ago. do you think they wanted to hint at us what he really does?

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Me said...

Rumplestiltskin, among his other names is encouraging everyone to stick their heads in the sand about this stuff in the previous comments section.

I disagree. The more people that know about this the better. If you can work it into conversations around the water cooler, all the better.

People talk about being perceived as crazy for discussing this stuff. But there's a way to do it subtly and open people's eyes.

People's eyes need to be opened.

I'm sorry, but anyone who comes here talking about how we should all just close our eyes and pretend it isn't happening is extremely suspicious IMO.

Its a process.

It doesn't mean we go out tomorrow and start shooting people. It means we educate people. Slowly.

We mention things off hand around the dinner table when our relatives/friends start gushing about X-Factor and Idol.

We encourage people to look into the bios of stars.

Already people are becoming more curious, asking questions. Don't shut them down now and tell them to look away!

Unless.....

You WANT this continue...?

Anonymous said...

Oh please.
Totally ignore zionists almost
total monopoly on the "sin"
racket, but wave arms wildly
over the few gentiles who will be run
out of business quickly anyway.
Shillery or stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Hi! well, before CRAig ferguson introduced his next guest, singer patty griffin, her album is called downward church, he had the cd pointed sideways, i wonder what is on the cover of the cd? her dress looked very evil, like ask skull on the pattern above her chest and very spiderwebby. she sings about "jesus" and stuff....which made me thinking about posting here, of course!!!! just find it...weird!?

Anonymous said...

@8 February 2010 18:05

you missed the other point made, completely.

talking/spreading awareness ultimately has, and most likely will never 'end' this.

what happened in Mayan times when people questioned? they burned the villages down,wiping every trace apart from the physical buildings that existed, then relocated.

what happened in egypt? they sacrificed the peasants,the pyramids remained/those that commited the genocide relocated.

these days Im skeptical it would be anything different than how its always been; our demise, their gain(less people)

that being said, I dont think anyone sane should close their mind. but neither should they dismiss others because they realise, ultimately, nothing can/will be done with words.

RumpleStiltskin among my other names said...

@Me 8 February 2010 18:05

I fear you are completely missing the point, and I'd guess you haven't read any of my discussion with Brenda, or if you have then you have already decided on your interpration of what I said before properly reading it.

I'm not telling anyone to believe anything, unlike what you are proposing to do to people at the water cooler. If I am seeking to encourage anything it is to take a step back from our beliefs and realize why we believe things.

I am well read on these subjects and am not simply dismissing something that I have not researched myself. I'm merely proposing some rational and unbiased thought.

What right is it of yours to assume you have important information that everyone must hear? It is the EXACT same mindset as that of fundamentalist Christians, dogmatic scientists and the shitsticks who run this world.

As for me being suspicious, believe it or not I am just a person like you drawing my own opinions from the stimuli I am presented with, no shill here. Clearly anyone who dares to challenge your hard and fast mindset is suspicious.

Anonymous said...

Now YOU'RE making assumptions Rumplestiltskin. I'm not advocating everyone MUST go out and talk about this stuff.

I'm saying that if a person WANTS to do something talking to people is a valid endeavor.

How do you know for sure this won't change anything? Can you see the future? You do realize there are still a lot of people who haven't even heard of these things.

Can you really say that if this information became mainstream (where your grandmother boss and college professor) knew all about it for instance that things wouldn't change?

I think we're very far from the number of people who need to know about these things to make a difference.

Krunk said...

I've spoken to people about this stuff, I did a talk on David Icke's ideas when I was in school and faced ridicule in front of my peers, I put my reputation on the line in the past to talk about things people thought were crazy.

I thought I knew something special and had to share it. People thinking I was an oddball helped solidify my certainty that I was correct in what I believed. I came to realize that I knew nothing, and was full of my own self importance. None of the information I wanted to share could be verified, it was all second hand and I spoke of it, as people do on this website, as gospel.

I'm not denying that there are huge issues humanity needs to face and that people on a daily basis blinker themselves, but we are all guilty of this.

You'll accuse me of being selfish, but I couldn't give a jot if people wake up to their potential or not. That's their fault. We are all responsible for ourselves and are only accountable to ourselves, I've got my own mind to take control of, rather than wasting time trying to convince people of things that I can't even verify or assure the utility of.

Brenda said...

^^^You're not selfish; your practical.

I agree that each of us has to focus on our own growth and raise our own consciousness and awareness. If you spend all your time trying to help others raise theirs and you are still an "infant" in the woods as far as knowledge, what good is that? But if EVERYONE would think that way, don't you see how everyone WOULD be smarter and more aware by virtue of their internal focus?

Of course, that's just a whim. A dream. But there IS the "Collective Unconscious" which I believe in and I do think it has bearing as to a populace's understanding, albeit, over a loooong period of time.

However, getting the word out about such things as we discuss here is still a valid endeavor. But, as I said on the other comment post, I do agree with Rumplestiltskin who wisely takes the time to consider the effects of this info and how it gets to a point where you either have to DO something with it or you just end up stewing in it to no use, except depression and paranoia. BUT, as you said Krunk, how many of us want to be ridiculed for the info we disclose?

I remember about 10 years ago I was with my oldest friend—a friend who I THOUGHT was open and enlightened—and started talking about how vaccines would be used to control the populace and not stop disease. Her one word question was "Why?" So I answered as best I could and after a carefully thought out reply, her one word question was, again, "WHY?" This went on for about 10 more minutes of me replying as best I could and her replying "WHY?" to each dissertation. She wasn't so much being a bitch about it, she just kept wanting to force me to delve further into the reasoning behind my beliefs and make sure I had thought this out MYSELF and I wasn't just parroting other's thoughts. It pissed me off at first but then I realized that I don't have all the answers but I do have a "gut" which I listen to and it's that gut that guides me and tells me if I'm off course. Call it my internal bullshit meter. I count on it and it's saved me many times.

Continued below....

Brenda said...

continued....

BUT how does one take one's "gut instinct" that something is valid and express that to others without REALLY sounding nuts?? No one worth any salt would listen UNLESS you were someone they already respected and counted on for good info. Thus, I guess the idea is to get your own house in order and be the example you wish to show and then others WILL listen to you when you have something to say.

The other possibility, which I've considered, is that maybe it would become so obvious in the world that convincing others of this MK stuff and other control/power struggles for humanity's throat wouldn't be difficult. But you know what? It already IS obvious what's going on IF you have eyes to see and aren't blinded by your religion, family beliefs, cultural beliefs or societal beliefs. Once a person is willing to honestly say that they are not an "expert" and that maybe....just maybe...they weren't given all the info and tools they needed as a child and young adult to interact and see this world for what it REALLY is, only then can they begin to entertain these "crazy ideas" about MK, Illuminatti, ritual abuse, etc.

Case in point: Gigi Jordan's story will be long forgotten in one week or less. Her accusation about the Wyoming incident will be marginalized or also forgotten. She will recover from her suicide attempt and be put into a mental hospital or prison and be suicided to finish the clean up. But it will all look so normal because nobody wants to peel back the onion layers anymore and see what's below the surface. You know what happens when you do that? People get pissed. I know because I've caused a number of stirs in my community and in my family for daring to peel back the onion and ask "What's underneath?" Most people LOVE to stay blind. I can't do it but most people love it. They'd rather turn their eyes away from their own child being raped or abused because they just don't want to deal with it or that river of denial is too deep. I've seen this too and it's beyond frustrating.

J.L. said...

@anon 14:03

Ever notice how when celebs such as Mischa Barton and Lindsay Lohan tend to deny their problems with the words, "I'm in a really good place now"?

That reply about being in a good place is called a classic "diversion" response. Ask a question about how someone is and instead of them being specific, they reply with a a bland answer that cannot be easily argued because why would you argue with someone who is telling you they're in a "good place?" EVEN if it's clearly obvious that they are NOT in a good place? You could argue with them and say that you don't believe they are doing great but then they can come back and tell you how great they feel and the "amazing energy" they now have.

Notice how every damn thing is called "AMAZING?" I hate that word now. Watch TV and count the times people use that stupid word.

Anonymous said...

Great post Ben. Very informative. Hopefully we can follow up on these stories and see where they go. I wish we had our own investigators on the ground as opposed to just having to read articles. :)

One correction to Anonymous at 8 February 2010 22:33, Patti Griffin's CD is called "DOWNTOWN church". Dunno if that makes a difference or not.

Anonymous said...

"We are all responsible for ourselves and are only accountable to ourselves, I've got my own mind to take control of, rather than wasting time trying to convince people of things that I can't even verify or assure the utility of."

if everyone else lived by this, oh how it would be easier; zero knowitalls.

and lead to much more agreeing to disagree.

but then again, we mere humans..can we be rational too often? so far in my life Im certainly leaning to that being a 'no'!

Jimbo said...

Why was the Carroll case held in Wales when his entire Prostitution/Satanic Abuse empire took place in Ireland?

Names in high places being protected?

Anonymous said...

^^^probably so as not to taint the jury pool?

Anonymous said...

another sad story about those in the upper echelons of society. i think i'm more happy down here with the bottom feeders AND evil hides behind the thin veil of catholicism. some things never change.

maten said...

craig ferguson is in the Rose Croix

Big Daddy said...

^^^^^"They" LOVE people like you. "They" love it when people give up and give in because that's one more victim in their "Win" column.

fravock said...

"The 15-year-old girl was handed condoms, lingerie and a tube of cream and left to await instructions" you've go to love the daily mail.

Anonymous said...

Peppa Pig or Pecker Pig?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ITAxrZo2w


Check out this phallic subliminal.

Anonymous said...

this blog is getting full of retards....

Anonymous said...

remember this comment?

Anonymous said...

A big celebrity will die February 8th/9th (or we'll hear of their death). Most likely will have some of the same details associated with Anna Nicole's death.
6 February 2010 15:22

Anonymous said...

^^^^I'm still waiting...

Anonymous said...

Who's a retard?

Anonymous said...

@9 February 2010 15:10

agreed, its officially the 10th now. after all, the person didnt state which time zone it would occur in thus they have been proven a liar/fantasist.

Brenda said...

You can usually count on a sacrifice on the equinoxes or the solstices and that ever-popular Wiccan favorite, April 19th. But February 8th isn't on the radar in the Satanic calendar of sacrificial events. Although, February 14th is....

Check here for the list of important dates:

http://www.survivorship.org/resources/altcalendar.html

(Ben, might want to bookmark that site for future use when the next sacrifice occurs.)

davidd said...

Very interesting post, Ben. I really enjoyed your write up on the 3 items and found you got to the point in each one very quickly.
Thanks for putting in the time (again!)
David

Anonymous said...

Captain Phil Harris died. On Tmz now...but he's not really a big celebrity as far as I'm aware.

It says he was hospitalized by a stroke while unloading CRABS. He had been doing better until the sudden turn...

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable whats happening here!
Anyway...

http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2010/02/09/lindsay-lohan-is-jesus-purple-magazine/

C.

fl said...

Here is 'art' in Vancouver:

http://pricetags.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/church.jpg

It's an upside-down church with most of it's roof and walls torn off. The title? "Device to Root Out Evil." Vancouver is a known center of satanism, and I interpret this art installation as what they want to do to the Church. satanists know full well that the Church is a device to root out evil.

fl said...

Ben, please do a post on the new show "Caprica" on the SyFy channel. It's got a lot of occult/egyptian symbols including human sacrifice, pyramids, etc. I, along with friends, have nightmares after watching. Don't know if it's the content or perhaps subliminals? Either way, I'm not watching anymore.

Anonymous said...

haha, i was thinking that too about the celeb death comment. jerk.


watch someone die now after i say this....lol

Anonymous said...

question:

just want to know, how do "they" choose people for sacrifices? do you have to have a certain amount of good 'energy' for them to steal (its about stealing energy to gain power, or something right?) and/or have a certain birth name that the numerology of adds up to an occult number? i'm not quite clear on this so if someone could explain, cheers

Anonymous said...

@10 February 2010 09:07

given its true, who knows? the nobodies they off cant all be privvy to high end knowledge, or of 'good spirit'

after all, how can someone who some claim have been programmed/destroyed spirituall/mentally/physically still be of good spirit?

its certainly confusing stuff.

Anonymous said...

I think Tila Tequila, Lindsay Lohan, Madonna will be next. Those who aren't making enough profit for the will be killed off. I think Madonna will definitelly be killed off this year, she's worth more dead than alive to them. Just like Michael Jackson has sold millions since his death.

Brenda said...

If you're talking about "energy" (sucking it out of someone, stealing it, etc.) then children are the best sacrifices I think to "them" because of their innate youthfulness and the "energy" that comes with that.

When you look at that link I posted above of the Occult sacrifice days and "holidays," it's clear that specific days call for specific types of sacrifices (children, animals, people under the age of 17, etc.) It seems that in the Occult there is a clear regimen that must be followed in order to attain whatever benefit they are looking for.

It's all very confusing to me too. But I think if you bend your head around the idea that these people do not think or act or react like "normal" people, you have a better understanding of it. Their perception, it seems, and perspective on life and death and the ego-driven need to attain otherworldly power is fueled by these ancient traditions that have been passed down through their incestuous lineage.

I'm reading a book that I found in a second hand store on Cabbalah Mysticism titled "Call Adonoi: Manual of Practical Cabalah and Gestalt Mysticism (Paperback)


Here is the link on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Call-Adonoi-Practical-Cabalah-Mysticism/dp/0936596007/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265838187&sr=1-11

Wow. That's all I can say. It's totally opening my eyes up to the REASONS behind the architecture in churches, paintings and sculptures while also shining light on the belief that Master Masons have and the various meditations they allegedly do using both hand poses along with specific humming or repetitive words. The whole point, from what I can understand so far, is that this knowledge has been passed down from the temples of Egypt and these hand poses along with the specific sounds/words were KNOWN to open up the energy centers of the body and allow the person to become a vehicle for the Divine whereby knowledge from the other side could be transmitted.

As there is duality in everything, this knowledge was supposed to be used for the betterment of Mankind and the evolution of us as a people, even though it was only given to the Priests and then put into the hands of those who were willing to handle the opening of their Third Eye. But it was abused and misused by those who realized its darker potential. Thus, much of what the Masons taught/teach was initially meant to uplift a man into the higher realms of consciousness to affect his soul.

Now, it's all a dark mess.

Anonymous said...

Brenda, you've hit the nail on the head when you said "if you bend your head around the idea that these people do not think or act or react like "normal" people, you have a better understanding of it."

You really have to get into the mind of a psychopath to understand the way they think and their motives for doing things.

Interesting you mention the Call Adonai book. My father had that book (now in my posession) He was a follower of Crowley and I know for a fact he used the information in that book for dark purposes.

The bad news is that working these energies in a dark way just makes these psycopaths even more psycopathic, the good news is that in the long run, they end up destroying themselves.

Anonymous said...

brenda, you're amazing. you should be the one writing this blog!

Brenda said...

@anon 14:37

I'm not even half way through the book and I'm realizing that the author left out specific elements of the rituals (in places he states that info was not released to him for whatever purpose.) It's not really a manual for tapping into the other side because so much of what I've read is fairly sporadic and not well explained.

According to him, the word "AD-ON-OI" and "A-MEN" are two powerful chants that can release the energetic flow within the body and allow one to become more in tune with the psychic world. But if you do not know how to handle or manage this information when it starts coming in, you can become seriously harmed by the effects on your psyche.

For whatever reason, this idea of using hand poses (much like mudras) and humming specific tones or words while doing this, seems to resonate with me on an unconscious level to be true and valid. It really goes back to the idea that the body is an energetic tool that can be used to access higher forms of consciousness, potential and thought. Of course, the opposite is also true. The knowledge can be used to subvert, control, scare and destroy the masses.

For example, if I understand what the book is saying, it's that all of this "opening of the energy portal to higher consciousness" was meant to give Mankind a DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE DIVINE/GOD/SOURCE. Then the Church came in, told everyone they needed an intermediary and thwarted their belief in their ability to feel empowered by their own divinity.

However, I think that even the Priests in Egypt had control issues. They knew that there were plenty of people who didn't give a shit about enlightenment and just wanted to eat, drink, and screw. There was no reason to waste time with them on learning the secrets of the ages. So, just like today, knowledge of higher states of consciousness became known to only a few who really cared about studying it. Believe me, you have to care enough about this to STUDY IT and not just passively entertain the thought of how cool it may be. Those who dabble in this are the ones who only get to eat the crust on the bread but never understand that the bread is what they're after. It's like the fools who "dabble" in Lower Occult shit like Ouija boards and spells. All these do is draw in the lower elementals and leave one open to entities.

I still maintain that there is a VAST difference between the Occult and the True Esoteric knowledge. Just as the origins of Kabbalah are more about the inherent power of numbers, letters, sounds and shapes but this is used today for more nefarious purposes.

Anon 14:37 again... said...

@ Brenda... we're on the same page. I know from experience of growing up in what would appear to be an MK household, then later finding a genuine mystery school teacher that you're on the right track.

But I disagree on a semantic point of view on your view of the occult bieng different to true esoteric knowledge. Occult simply means "the hidden or unkown" so by definition is can be true or false knowledge; I hear what you are saying by your distinction though.

Brenda said...

^^^Yes, I know the meaning of "occult." The only reason I differentiate is because I see "occult" as a lower or base divination of the mystic arts. Whereas, esoteric (true, mystery school esoteric knowledge) is on such a higher plane of understanding that MK Ultra doesn't touch it. I see the later as shrouded in a more "purple light of higher consciousness," so to speak and the baser "occult" shrouded in a black sludge that keeps you prisoner to your fears and survival chakra impulses.

I think it's fantastic that you found a genuine mystery school teacher. They are few and far between, are they not? Was this in the U.S. or Europe?

I too was lucky enough to find one when I was in my late 20's and while the connection was brief, the lessons I learned were many. It is awful that this info has been bastardized and used for dark purposes, isn't it?

I can't say enough about how important it is to stay on track and keep remembering that we are all a part of the Source of higher consciousness and that we have a CHOICE to either participate in this mind control or not. But again, I'm not saying not to be aware of it or put our heads in the sand. But too much focus on it will lead to depression and a sense of "what the hell is life worth?" Then you are taken away from your true purpose and "they" win again.

Anon 14:37 again, again... said...

@Brenda

Definitely few and far between. The genuine teacher I was lucky enough to find was in New Zealand. While I was a student for a few years, in the scheme of things my connection was fairly brief as I lacked self-discipline to do what was required at that stage of my life (namely meditating regularly, hand gestures, sounds) but I also learnt a lot and it definitely helped heal me from the dark occult shit I experienced as a child. (which I'd write a blog about if I wasn't so paranoid!)

Anonymous said...

This information was removed from an Australian websiste after the OTO (Crowley's crowd) won a court case related to the issues mentioned. Good to see the information hasn't vanished completely...

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/abuse/illuminatiring.txt

Anonymous said...

^^^ for some reason the full link wont post. It's worthwhile and relevant info.

After murder_inc/site/ type in:

abuse/illuminatiring.txt

Anonymous said...

P.S. The television network alluded to in the above link is the same network that produced the shows that got Danni and Kylie Minogue started in their careers. (Young Talent Time & Neighbours)

Anonymous said...

This is great. I'm glad I found this site, as I too cannot find info on MK Ultra crimes that isn't ra ra Christian soldiers oriented. Just because you're against something, doesn't mean you are for something that supports the same way of thinking. Anyway. I would like to mention that I think Michael Jackson is MK, because of many things, but esp. I just found out he was in another movie version of The Wizard of OZ! Also I think Trent Reznor of NIN is MK. He is living in the former house of Charles Manson (programmer) and all his beautiful songs sing about being a multiple. I hope we can help these people.

Anonymous said...

^^^Reznor's videos from NIN scared the shit out of me.

tommy said...

Very revealing stuff. Great post.

WITHOUT TIME AND SPACE IS THE HEART OF IDENTITY said...

Brenda,

you said:

'For whatever reason, this idea of using hand poses (much like mudras) and humming specific tones or words while doing this, seems to resonate with me on an unconscious level to be true and valid. It really goes back to the idea that the body is an energetic tool that can be used to access higher forms of consciousness, potential and thought. Of course, the opposite is also true. The knowledge can be used to subvert, control, scare and destroy the masses.'

my gut instict agrees with yours. as a child I learned to feel the energy between my palms by tensing my hands and doing like a clapping movement without my hands touching.

few years ago, after i 'opened up,' in a small scale, my dancing changed. my hands are able to code music into movement that moves automaticly to everywhere in my body if the information is tight enough (some musicians know how to handle this, consciously or not). sounds very much like hippie crap, i know. but the experience of it is very certain.

if i'm agitated, my hands might 'trigger' and draw movements in the air very fast without me really knowing or caring why.

i've meditated and done yoga since i was ten (more or less actively). i've always been against of mantras and humming for some reason (unconscious). i've read a little from samuel sagan (he's a little suspicuous, so is clairvision school. i lived for almost two years with a woman who spent two summers as a volunteer for them, but we hardly spoke on the subject. i regret that deeply, for now i'm in a different country etc.), his 'opening the third eye book' can be downloaded from http://www.clairvision.org/ckb/ckbe/ckbc/fol_0000_0700/cat_0000_2222/qid_0000_2222_0014.html

in the book he mentions very early on a mytholocigal story about voice, and how voice eventually will evolve in being a creative force - people will not make babies but speak babies etc. personally i've noticed, and an old saying goes along these lines too in my native language, that the things you speak much about rarely materialize. it's like speaking about things would create something of it already, making the true materialization undone. or are those things just 'pronounced' wrong?

ps: i'm not paranoid at all, neither should you be and just start bloggin'. i believe in the strength of a something internal, such strength that the little evils can fuck off.

WITHOUT TIME AND SPACE IS THE HEART OF IDENTITY said...

I do not know what happened to the ebook link. anyway: http://www.clairvision.org/ckb/ckbe/ckbc/fol_0000_0700/cat_0000_2222/qid_0000_2222_0014.html

WITHOUT TIME AND SPACE IS THE HEART OF IDENTITY said...

I still do not know. let's try in pieces:

http://www.clairvision.org/ckb/ckbe/ckbc/

fol_0000_0700/cat_0000_2222

/qid_0000_2222_0014.html

Moda said...

Alexander McQueen commits suicide...

Ben...your time

Moda said...

"The 40-year-old was discovered at his property in Green Street, in London's West End.
He is believed to have become depressed following the death of his mum Joyce, a week ago.
McQueen, who won British fashion designer four times between 1996 and 2003, had posted a string of messages on Twitter offering an insight into his state of mind.
The last message on his account was: "im here with my girl annie tinkerbell wishing kerry the slag, happy birthday in NY, your 40 now girl time to slow it down we think."
The unusual tweets began when his mother passed away.
On February 3 he wrote: "i'm letting my followers know the my mother passed away yesterday if it she had not me nor would you RIP mumxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
This was completed seconds later with "but life must go on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Then four days later over two tweets he wrote: "sunday evening been a f*****g awful week but my friends have been great but now i have to some how pull myself together and finish with the HELLS ANGLES & PROLIFIC DEAMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Police said his death is not being treated as suspicious.
A spokeswoman for Mr McQueen said: "Mr McQueen was found dead this morning at his home. We're devastated and I hope you understand that out of respect to his family and his colleagues we're not going to be making any further statement."

Sky.com

Anonymous said...

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

W.


T.


F.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WWWWWWTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

MODA! i was just about to say that!!!

PLEASE COVER THE ALEXANDER McQUEEN STORY!!!

THANKS BEN YOU ARE THE BEST :-)

Anonymous said...

He was found hanged. He was responsibile for so many of Lady GaGa's outfits, hopefully she'll cease to exist now! lol

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Alexander-McQueen-Has-Been-Found-Hanged-In-Paris-After-Apparently-Committing-Suicide-In-His-Flat/Article/201002215546990?lpos=Showbiz_News_Top_Stories_Header_0&lid=ARTICLE_15546990_Alexander_McQueen_Has_Been_Found_Hanged_In_Paris_After_Apparently_Committing_Suicide_In_His_Flat

kim said...

Didn't Lady Gaga wear McQueen's designs in her "Bad Romance" video? This makes the third death that I'm aware of that is in some way connected to Lady Gaga. Makes me wonder.

Anonymous said...

What other deaths were connected to GaGa?

Anonymous said...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7022817.ece

Charlie Wilson died on the 10th of Feb.
Never heard of him before, but might be of interest.
Supposedly funded a CIA operation.
I have a feeling more deaths are looming :/

Anonymous said...

Alec Baldwin was rushed to hospital after his daughter dialled 911, it has emerged.

The 51-year-old actor, who stars in hit U.S. show 30 Rock, was in an 'unresponsive' state when taken to a hospital in New York.

A 911 emergency call was made from his home in Manhattan. It is thought his teenage daughter Ireland made the call.

A police official said Baldwin and his young daughter had argued and she told 911 he had threatened to take pills.


ALEX BALDWIN..SOON TO BE DEAD..

Anonymous said...

Tinkerbell?

Oh man.

A programming icon certainly.

Who else were in McQueen's "icon" class?

How very tragic.

A suggestion for some who are leaving novels here. Perhaps create your own blog and post links? I think your ideas and experiences are interesting but much of the "nuggets" that I and others come here to see from others gets lost in the minutiae/extremely long posts/infighting.

Thanks as always for your brilliant mind Ben and others. Skep

Anonymous said...

Brenda = aquarian?

What's Ben? Cancer?

kim said...

There was an aspiring singer/song writer that was getting ready to hit the big time around the same time that Lady Gaga was coming out. The woman (I can't remember her name at this time) did a song with LG and then ended up jumping to her death from her apartment.

A photographer at an event took a picture of LG on the red carpet and died from a heart attack a few moments later.

Sounds a lot like it just a coincidence but it's a little disturbing.

kim said...

The woman I was speaking of in the comment above was Lina Morgana. There's a lot of people who seem to think that she was a sacrifice for LG.

Here's Lina's youtube with videos of her songs on it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LinaNYC

Anonymous said...

Hmm gues the person who made that prediction a few days ago was right....

Anonymous said...

They will be honoring him on the first day of fashion week.

Ugh.

Anonymous said...

I just heard the news about McQueen...shocking and quite unexpected...It's funny how we come to THIS blog when celebs die...I don't trust any news sources anymore...what is the world comming too! McQueen must have been extremely close to his mother (or already have some psychological problem) to resort to suicide, if that is what has happened. RIP I guess.
Marty/MK

Brenda said...

McQueen was once "honored by the Queen" for what that's worth.

Yes, I know I write long posts sometimes. Getting info out in small bits is often difficult if you're constrained by space. No, I have no time for my own blog, thanks.

Perhaps my posts are so long because I'm a GEMENI. We do love to communicate, don't we? I'll work on making them shorter.

Quick note to: Without Time and Space:

You wrote above:

"in the book he mentions very early on a mytholocigal story about voice, and how voice eventually will evolve in being a creative force - people will not make babies but speak babies etc. personally i've noticed, and an old saying goes along these lines too in my native language, that the things you speak much about rarely materialize. it's like speaking about things would create something of it already, making the true materialization undone. or are those things just 'pronounced' wrong?"

I've actually noticed this in life. You know how the Higher Potential movement always says to speak of what you want in the present tense. Such as: "I am happily married" vs. "I want to be happily married." Speak as if it already exists. Well, I've had some good luck using that process for work-related and some personal endeavors. But I DO believe that chatter (as my husband calls it) incessant chatter on any topic for long periods of time tends to drain the energy from that endeavor and make it less potent when it comes to making something happen.

Case in point: I had a Jewish friend when I was a kid and her father owned a deli. My mom would go there and ask, "How it going?" and he'd always respond, "It's OK. Could be better." He'd say this when things were great, which they usually were. I learned later from another Jewish friend that there's some suspicion that if you speak too much about your business or say it's going "well," you'll be cursed and things will not go well. Interesting since there is some Kabbalistic overtones still carried over in Judaism today, which would resonate with the humming and hand gestures used in some ceremonies.

Creepy said...

"Body Found Where Christian Bale Lived"

In 2008, while Bale was filming "Terminator: Salvation" in Albuquerque, New Mexico, the body of Michael Snyder lay in the front yard of the home he rented while filming the movie.

Strange. Odd. Just a sick coincidence I'm sure.

Snyder's ex-wife is being held on murder charges.

Here is the link on TMZ.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/11/body-found-where-christian-bale-lived-new-mexico/

Law of attraction?

Anonymous said...

We're going to see more and more of this as the Great Revelation continues.

End times programming is kicking into high gear now which will unfortunately mean more deaths, and programmed slaves will need to be very strong in the coming years to resist this self-destruct programming.

Anonymous said...

Remember in Eyes Wide Shut when the Doctor makes a visit to that rich female patient whose father has just died and how strangely she behaved? This is an example fo what happens to a slave when its programmer dies.

The programmers of elite are often the parents. When the programmer dies the slave is at risk of dying, so McQueen's mother's death could have triggered this.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't the surname MAC or MQ mean descendant of in Gaelic????


So MAC-Queen......????

Brenda said...

Fascinating article on how 9-11 "Hijacker" Mohamed Atta was most likely a programmed multiple. The article gives a list of personality aspects associated with ritual abuse and gives reasons why Atta was chosen.


http://moneyteachers.org/911.htm

Brenda said...

@anon 11:28,

I wondered about that same thing when I read the space of time between his mother's death and his suicide. There was some psychic connection that was too powerful.

@anon 11:31

I was going to say something about "Queen" being in his name too. But I couldn't really connect it to anything worthwhile. If your assertion is correct, interesting idea since he was "honored" by her.

Anonymous said...

Alec Baldwin is back on the set of his TV show.

Much ado about nothing? Too bad he can't grow up and act like an adult.

Anonymous said...

I refuse to ever talk about mind control again. I think Ben should close and delete this blog. I dont think we realize how we can affect someone who is mind controlled by making them seem like a dumb robot.
They might flip out after reading the stuff on this blog. My one friend said Mcqueen who he knew from a gay bar was upset over the stuff on this blog that talks about him being a mind controlled slave. As I said before think again before posting this stuff. You can hurt many people without even knowing it.

Emily said...

Okay, so I am almost done reading, "Programmed to Kill" by David McGowan, and I must say, I am a little bit scared! Before I go into why I am scared, I was really excited to see that a lot of the info that Cathy O'brien provided was pretty much verified by another source.

Anyway, I never knew MK and ritual sacrifice was so pervasive! It is kind of scary, so scary that I had a hard time sleeping.... I couldn't help but think what if someone I know is like, all into like satanism and ritual sacrifice and they want to like kill me or something! I know it is a bit irrational, but still. Just reading this book (highly recommend it), it makes me wonder...

I know it isn't good to view life that way, so I will think more positively.

@Lori

When I read about "a most dangerous game" in Cathy's book, I knew that it was probably the truest part of book! Just looking at Dick Cheney, I always knew he was a really evil person. He just seems, pardon my french, like a complete asshole!

I mean, what kind of person shoots someone in the FACE, and gets the victim to apologize to them! Although I can't say I sympathize with his friend, they were probably playing "a most dangerous game" when it happened, so serve him right!

Sorry for the off-topic post, I just had to get that off of my chest...

Anonymous said...

RIP ALEX MCQUEEN. Anyway there have been too many deaths of young gay ppl lately.

C.

Brenda said...

@anon 11:52

McQueen read Ben's blog?

Ben. You've hit the big time. Who else is reading your blog?

You ever think, anon, that getting info out to the masses (including the MK'd victims) is the right thing to do now?? Pulling the blanket off the crimes and letting the light shine on it is a GOOD thing, IMO.

What's the other option? Covering it up and letting it continue in secret?? That's what has been going on for decades here with celebs and see how well it's worked?

Ben is not including any triggering words on purpose or triggering symbols that we aren't all getting delivered to us every single day via the mass media. At least with Ben's posts, we UNDERSTAND the symbols and words, etc. so we're not walking in the dark.

Anonymous said...

SHIRLEY MANSON from GARBAGE, interesting character. She was CATHERINE WEAVER/T1001 in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The role of a toilet, literally...

Check these lyrics out

http://artists.letssingit.com/garbage-lyrics-1-crush-bwfzb4l

http://artists.letssingit.com/garbage-lyrics-the-trick-is-to-keep-breathing-8wvkrw4

http://artists.letssingit.com/garbage-lyrics-bleed-like-me-hpwcrwz

http://artists.letssingit.com/garbage-lyrics-born-in-a-burial-gown-z4r44q8

http://artists.letssingit.com/garbage-lyrics-butterfly-collector-wqlfdfr

C.

Anonymous said...

Ridiculous. This blog is HELPING MK victims if anything. As we start to put the pieces of our lives together we never understood.

Yes, its difficult to realize that some of these things are hovering in one's personal life, but we must stay strong!! Like the post above says, the monarchs are restless these days. There are dark times ahead for us and we need to be very strong!

We are not alone in this. There are others around the world who are starting to remember and communicate. Light beings, don't give up!

Anonymous said...

If you're going to make an article about Mariah Carey check out her most personal songs Looking In,Close My Eyes and Petals,and their lyrics.

J.L. said...

Doesn't Jennifer Lopez's husband, Marc, have "handler" written all over him? He's creepy, greasy and always seemingly guiding her whenever they are out in public. Have you ever seen a photo of them walking side by side? No. It's always him seemingly dragging her behind him. Same vibe with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes the way he drags her around.

And she is looking like shit these days, BTW. MY GOD, what has happened to sweet little Katie Holmes?? She looks old, haggard and like her soul has been stolen.

Anonymous said...

A photographer who worked with Alex on some photoshoots who Ben posted blogs about sent out a mass email to many fashion designers about this blog. So yes many people do know about this blog now. Alex was baffled by Ben posting about him being a tool of the elites, due to receiving a designer of the year award, and having occult symbolism in his runway shows and designs. Also about what has been said about Lady GaGa on different blogs.

He felt that instead of people looking at his creativity and the genius of his designs they just saw it as being the work of a programmed slave for the elite or of the devil. It was starting to get to him when my friend saw him prior to his mother's death and they were talking.

The bottomline is that none of you and even myself know Alexander Mcqueen, all you have is your conspiracies to spew venom about, and in the process possibly hurt a number of people.

maybe the real kate moss said...

Not all mind controlled slaves are strong, an if they read this their programming might switch to "self-destruct mode".

maybe the real kate moss said...

You have to be gentle with your words, as we are butterflies.

Brenda said...

@anon 13:19

You cannot blame Ben or any blog for forcing a man to commit suicide. Whether he was programmed and on self destruct mode is debatable at age 40. While I am not familiar with McQueen's occult symbology in his runway shows, he seems to have all the necessary attractions: occult symbology, honored by Queen, connection to Lady Gaga, etc. You cannot IGNORE these. Could they be coincidental? Of course, they could. But the Industry itself is devilish enough to make one want to "off" themselves, especially if personal or financial stress becomes too intense.

And yes, be gentle. I agree. But there comes a point when that "gentleness" becomes so mild so as not to create any resolution or change in the mindset. Sometimes a good shake up is needed. Like a slap in the face, so to speak. It's harsh but it sometimes works.

J.L. said...

^^^I agree.

You cannot put yourself in the public eye and accept all the adulation that comes with that and then NOT accept public scrutiny on any number of personal and creative creations.

It is terribly sad that Alex felt he had to end his life. But to blame a blog that is doing a lot of good exposing the evils of MK mind control is ridiculous.

Those in the public eye have learned to be tough and wear a coat as hard as an elephant's hide. They know the drill and most accept it as part of the game.

Mystery School Dropout said...

Why would a big icon like Steve McQueen be so upset by speculations made by a bunch of nobody conspiracy theorists? Unless what he allegedly read hit too close to home...

@ Anon 12:22 Agreed. This blog has helped fill some pieces of the jigsaw for me too.

Anonymous said...

the comments today have been amazing, i have nothing to say because most of its already been covered! rip alexander

Anonymous said...

the real kate moss eh....

Brenda said...

@Mystery School Dropout

It's ALEX McQueen....not Steve.

Steve died of cancer decades ago.

And I actually DON'T think he was MK'd. I think he'd tell 'em to "fuck off."

Anonymous said...

@Brenda... I meant Alex not Steve.

Anonymous said...

"And I actually DON'T think he was MK'd. I think he'd tell 'em to "fuck off."

LOL!

if only it was that easy...

Anonymous said...

@Brenda

And I actually DON'T think he was MK'd. I think he'd tell 'em to "fuck off."

If he was programmed from childhood, how would he even know to be able to tell them to "fuck off"?

Moda said...

http://justjared.buzznet.com/photo-gallery/2427095/rihanna-leopard-hoodie-clawing-05/

Anonymous said...

Have you all seen his runway shows from 2005 and 2007 on youtube. Fucking crazy! The models look like their in a trance, just playing along. If anything he was a mind control handler and couldn't handle the darkness he created in others. So many models and possibly even lady gaga are without their handler now. I bet you a few models will self destruct now.

Anonymous said...

sounds like alex broke down from his programming and it drove him to suicide...? along with the mother thing

Anonymous said...

Its common knowledge he was close to his mother,so the fool thinking he was in any way suicidal due to a blog are, well, foolish to say the least.

he was known to still go home even after he became a big time fashion designer, and lounge about on his mothers sofa eating and drinking..so obviously he was close to his mother...how many people who get the status he does still go home most weeks? not many.

of course, I'll be called a fool now..or arrogant, or some other label because it doesnt fit the agenda of some of you.

J.L. said...

I seriously doubt STEVE McQueen was programmed. This guy was the epitome of his own man and couldn't give a shit about the establishment. When he got cancer, he told his doctors to fuck off and he went to Mexico to have alternative treatment. My sister's friend was at the same clinic (the Gerson Clinic) in Mexico when Steve was there and she's still alive today. It was too late for Steve by the time he got there by he was a fighter, according to what my sister was told.

Not that there's anything wrong with it... said...

@14:36

I don't think you're a fool or whatever. A lot of gay guys are close to their mothers. As my psych teacher in college used to say, a gay guy's mother is often the reason he's gay (and the physical or emotional absence of his father).

Now I guess I'll get blasted by the crowd.

Anonymous said...

@J.L I thought Brenda was referring to ALEX McQueen not being programmed and telling them to "fuck off" after she pointed out my error of calling Alex, Steve...

Apologies for any confusion, my friends cat is called Steve McQueen so I had Steve McQueen on the brain when I was typing... I don't think STEVE McQueen was programmed but I DO think Alex McQueen was.

venusinpieces said...

This is from a post I wrote about helping vistims of mind control on the David Icke forum. I thought it would be good to post it here as well, since there are so many intelligent conversations about the subject going on here as well:

"When I put out a call for correspondence from mind control survivors on my blog, I was not anticipating the flood of mail I would receive. There are so many people out there who have been through this that it is absolutely unreal. The question I have is how can a victim become a survivor? And how can one who wants to expose the criminal networks of perpetrators interview a target who has been through severe trauma, while avoiding the pitfall of triggering those people into reliving their experiences in a way that compounds the original injury? And then there is the additional question of how to keep someone safe if their perpetrators are well connected sociopaths who have murdered people. I believe this is a possibility if there is a large enough group of aware people who want to see these injustices come to an end.

A lot of the people who have been calling and writing me have been stalked by occult organizations who have very real paranormal abiities that they use to target people more effectively. I can't stand the thought of standing by and doing nothing while these groups continue to hurt others, yet at the same time there is the potential for me to make the lives of my correspondents much worse by going about this in the wrong way. I am currently in the process of writing a book about this subject and feeling an enormous resposibility to do this in the right way, and for the right reasons. I am a human being like anyone else, so of course I have selfish motivations sometimes, although I would like to minimize that as much as possible when it comes to this project. I want to get answers about these questions because I know there are many caring people out there who want to see the human rights abuses of MKULTRA and its associated ritual abuse eradicated.

One of the things I have learned is that it is really important to focus on other things to take my mind off of some of the horrible information that people have been sharing with me. So I play with my animals or cook or read books unrelated to mind control. If I don't take this time to decompress then I become too dysfunctional to help anyone.

The other thing is not harboring hostilities towards perpetrators. A lot of targets seem to be destroying themselves with hatred for their programmers. And I really don't want to contribute to that. Revenge was my original motive for pursuing the subject but now that has changed. Now I just want for all these traumas to stop.

The situations I am dealing with mostly have to do with intergenerational occultism, and all the problems associated with that. But, as the technologies and practices of these groups spread out into the population, more and more people will be exposed to programming techniques. So I welcome the contributions of anyone here who has something to contribute on this topic.

Anonymous said...

@J.L.

I agree, nobody programmed would have gone UA(not returning to base after weekend leave)

the very basis of programming is to STOP them doing this.

Anonymous said...

@11 February 2010 14:41

yep, get ready for the onslaught!

its not because of their closeness with their mother, its programming!!!

venusinpieces said...

^^^^I wish the comments section had an edit function. :/

Anonymous said...

which one of you are on the LadyGaGa.com/forum writing posts about mind control and linking to this blog with the nickname "MonarchMkUltra" and "StefaniStutters" please stop. The forum is for fans, not your conspiracy BULLSHIT!

lady caca said...

^^^hit a nerve, did we?

J.L. said...

@ anon 14:45

Did STEVE McQueen go UA? I assume that's what you're implying.

Anonymous said...

Former President Clinton Undergoes Heart Surgery After Chest Pains

FOXNews.com

Bill Clinton underwent heart surgery at a New York City hospital Thursday to get two stents implanted after he felt "discomfort in his chest," a representative for the former president said.

Anonymous said...

So curious to see what everyone thinks of the viral video under the name iamamiwhoami. TONS of symbolism; animals, sex, birth, trees dripping semen/mother's milk (?) just BIZARRE.
Some say GAGA, others say Christina Aguilera...
http://www.youtube.com/user/iamamiwhoami

And for the record, Alexander McQueen was LEE McQueen, not Alex. ;)

Anonymous said...

@Venus,

the hardest part will be working out which are genuine counts and which accounts are fantasists.

it should be relatively easy, though.

heres a couple examples which I find is replicated only with a different tale every so often;

the never-ending target; someone who claims they have been targeted for x years, often also claim to know super secret info.

why thats questionable? time.

if the info/person is truly worth warranting time and resources on, then there is no way they will allow them the time to release what ever info they know.

then theres the other one which seems to appear every 4-6 years. someone will claim to be a relative of one of the main bloodlines(9 times out of 10 it will be a female)

youll notice they forget that the 13 bloodlines are minimized into a lesser number since these bloodlines are now 'merged' through inter-marriage...thus the modern day bloodlines will most likely be at least 50% shorter, given each one has inter-married at least once.

also if they have personal websites, such as .com/.net etc that are hosted in the U.S. and claim to be living in the U.S. and update frequently.

the reason that doesnt add up, in my opinion, is because any host in the U.S. will have an instant read on whoever is logging in/updating.

if the person/people are what they claim, whats the odds the govt/whoever doesnt have their site flagged? its minimal.

Anonymous said...

@J.L.

yeah, he did. for about 2 weeks then resisted arrest, and did time for it...just over a month if I remember correctly.

Anonymous said...

@14:53 shut up you stupid sponge.

Anonymous said...

"my friends cat is called Steve McQueen"


hahahaaahahahaha

Anonymous said...

^^^ it's true! (glad someone got a laugh out of it though)

Anonymous said...

@Venus

Thanks for re-posting that info. I've just started reading your blog and may be in touch to share my experiences when I can work out how to communicate with as little potential danger to myself as possible.

Lori said...

Hi
I read all the comments here but this is also about the photographer who read this blog and told alexander mcqueen about this blog. well, i do believe more people than we realize are in fact reading this. this is also why i think people can read our personal blogs etc...but it made me feel sad to read, "maybe the real kate moss" saying be gentle, we are butterflies. whether or not that was her, its still sad. here we are, most of us without a clue, commented and trying to figure it out.

maybe it is far more for anyone to figure out. the 13 bloodlines are a small percentage of this world, there are BILLIONS of people out there! most of them have no idea, but those that are continuing programming and handling have been abused themselves.

the more i read about things, the more comfusing and complicated it becomes, at least to me...

i want to be aware and research and read books too, but i also need to focus on my life as well.

anyways, like i said, you never know who is checking out these blogs or comments...

Anonymous said...

The Haunting game story about Cathy O'Brien & Dick C., after reading it, it came off as bad fiction. The way it was written and revealed and "remembered" felt really sketchy, like someone writing a bad story in a remedial English writing class. Can you say fail...it makes me question her "accounts", the way it is presented has a feeling of insincerity and falsehood. There are many victims out there, but the way she tells her stories, it may just be that, a story. I have amazing senses when it comes to bullshitter's

Anonymous said...

STEVE MCQUEEN was very close to LAVEY and took part in his ceremonies. Yes, I know, most of u will jump on me and asking me for proofs. Unfortunately I stumbled upon this info last year but it didnt cross my mind to copy the link. Yes, it happens... And its HOLLYWOOD we deal with after all, so no wonder that smb like good ol' STEVE was like that.

C.

Anonymous said...

Steve McQueen was no satanist, trust me on this one. What a ridiculous and blond accusation! LOL

Anonymous said...

@ C

i really hope you're lying about this! :(

Anonymous said...

Try...

"They sold their souls for rock and roll".

Not completely accurate (leaves out
Israel and zionism almost completely), which is absurd.

iamthewitness.com
wakeupfromyourslumber.com
judicial-inc.org

Anonymous said...

Thank you Ben for your dedicated work. It's been an eye opener for many and it really helps to demystify the cult of celebrity that grips today's society. Especially youth. Believe it or not, your effort is helping people, to not blindly follow pop culture and how to discern foolishness.

When I first read about Gigi Jordan, they barely blew right past it in the news but I had that sinking feeling that she and her baby are victims of the elite crazies. Springmeier wrote that a lot of the monarch victims are from wealthy/elite families.

You said:

>>this would inevitably traumatize and drive any caring mother near insane, leading them to believe their only escape is death>>

I agree 100% It must be an awful thing to live with... I feel so bad for them.

JenL said...

Ok a year late for the thread but better than never. As for Gigi Jordan stating her son was being raped, there is evidence that this sort of thing happens on a regular basis. Check out the Fabric of the Web story on David Icke's website on the decade long rape and abuse of Hollie Grieg from the Grampian region of Scotland. Hollie, who has Down's Syndrome, was raped by her father Denis Charles Mackie who threatened to kill her dog and her mother if she said anything. The father was part of a satanist cult including a sheriff, police officers, lawyers, a fire officer, nurse and social workers. The rapes occurred at the perpetrator's homes and inside a Scottish Rite Freemason temple. Icke quotes from someone as saying 'atrophied tastes need stronger stimulation and that any form of bizarre sexual congress is explored and encouraged. To wit- there is a rise in Down's Syndrome pornography coming out of places like Australia and the former Soviet Union. I guess my point is, while there's certainly a chance that the autism was brought on by severe abuse(Stallone's son had it as does Jenny McCarthy's son, both tied into that sick system)there's the other possibility that cults with 'jaded tastes' were once again satisfying their disgusting perversions with this child. Lucky for Hollie Grieg, her mother found out and intervened, and was successful. Sorry for the long post. Great work Pseudoccult, love your site.

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